I wonder how a record company could think they would get away with this type of release? I'm sure Uncle Phil came after them pretty hard, and I can't imagine the Vanguards not being really upset. Composers are incorrect, producer (Vanguards) is wrong. Hmm...?
Don't know what this is? Re-recording? Crystals NOT The Crystals. No composer/producer credits... different sounding than the Philles recordings with the same titles. Hmm...? Who are these Rebound people?
Fred, I was hoping one of our Scandinavian experts would have commented.
NCB: Nordisk Copyright Bureau (Skandinavien) covers several countries and the positioning of the NCB within a square or a rectangle is a key indicator of which is the country of release.
I think you should add it as a release from Denmark and once we see it we'll decide if it's in the right place. Comment by fredhoyt:
The label looks similar - no Extended Play, HL 9773 where the RE 5134 is, NCB in a rectangle in the same location. Does that make it Denmark? I can add the picture sleeve and record to Denmark and the mods can move it if they don't like it there....Comment by Felonious:
I have a picture sleeve and record from Netherlands (HL 9773) by the Crystals that has the exact same information that this record contains. My record contains the NCB (?) in a rectangle, but does not have the B.I.E.M. (?) designation. Should I add a separate listing for it, or should I add it to this listing? Thanks for your help.
Yes, a number of the B-sides in this bootleg series have the wrong label info.Comment by allan0318:
Not quite sure about the b side credits on this 45. The information I have it that Heartbreaker features La La Brooks as lead singer, it was recorded in March 1963 at Gold Star Studios in LA, was written by Phil Spector, Jeff Barry, and Ellie Greenwich, produced by Phil Spector, arranged by Jack Nitzsche, engineered by Larry Levine, and was "unreleased in the US." It is on the cd Best of the Crystals with a time of 2:34, ABKO records and also on the Back to Mono box set with the same information and time.
Oh, I see... The Crystals' version of "The Sound Of Silence "...;-). Never knew they did a version of that. Don't rate it a "zero" just yet. Give it time, it might grow on you...
"Absolutely NO sounds from the "B" side"... No pops, no clicks, no surface noise, no rumble, no wow or flutter... Now THAT'S impressive!! I need more records like that. ;-)Comment by fredhoyt:
It's textured, but absolutely NO sounds from the "B" side... I'll still rate it a "zero." Comment by Bill Fick:
Looks like a silent groove to me, no patterns or differences in color in the grooves. Styrene pressing.Comment by Excello-2101:
I thought you said there were no grooves on the "B" side? Looks like grooves to me, now whether those grooves have any sound in them, you'll have to tell us.
It's a shame that this wasn't released legitimately. The B-side would've made a damn fine single. One of the best originally unreleased Philles tracks.
Actually, I like the concept behind this series of bootlegs, substituting the throwaway instrumental B-sides for unreleased Spector productions.
Bobby boy, you triggered a memory. Read your post at work & had to wait until I got home to find out for sure. You are correct, there ARE 2 different versions of "All Grown Up", the original 45 listed here, & another version on the Phil Spector/ABKCO CD release, "The Best Of The Crystals" from 1992 (track 19). And yes, one is more laid-back than the other.
Funny thing, the CD does NOT list it's track as being an alternate version or anything.
Not sure which version you heard... the Collectible issue of this record deletes the "instrumental" introduction that is on the Philles record. The timing is only a few seconds, but the intro is really about ten seconds long. Other than the intro they are the same Spector arrangement.
There was another release of this song by The Sisters on Del-Fi (without Spector's composer credits) -- and without "the Wall" it does sound a little more laid back. Maybe that's the one you heard?Comment by Bobby boy:
As I recall, there are two different versions of "All Grown Up"--one the really rocks out, and another at a more "laid back" tempo. I recall hearing the second version in a record shop in Long Beach 20 or 30 years ago, and don't think I bought it (have to dig into the dusty corners and see).