a few years back I bought a Spector collection that included three legitimate copies of "let's dance the screw"...two promo copies were sold on eBay and I kept the only know stock copy. And yes all the stampers, printing etc etc were correct on all three..... & same color label as the promo...Phil did whatever he wanted regarding labels record #'s printing size and more when it came to "his" label ...had a couple of small hole 45s that apparently weren't supposed to exist that sold quickly... so it shouldn't surprise anyone that a stock copy of "the Screw"exists. PS I also have the River Deep mountain High lp and the sp 100 compilation that Phil sent (along with with a letter) to a few of his favorite DJ's...some test pressings... blue vinyl Righteous brothers..and some unreleased hand written sheet music...who knows what else is out there that hasn't appeared....happy hunting
To clarify the story behind this release: Phil Spector and Lester Sill start Philles Records in 1961. The relationship quickly sours. Spector's ego and inability to work well with others results in Phil behaving badly so as to annoy Les into selling out his interest in the label. Sill finally agrees to a buyout estimated at $60k just to be rid of Spector. Phil withheld that payment, claiming that Les owed him back royalties. Les sued Phil to get the money owed him. "Let's Dance the Screw' was Phil's response to that lawsuit. The record was never intended for release. Spector's ego drove him to have the last word. Sill was the only person intended to hear the record, and he was the only person to whom a copy was delivered. The reason multiple copies exist is because the pressing plant had a minimum order size. After Spector got his one copy to give to Sill, the remaining records were supposed to be destroyed. Obviously a few were taken home by pressing plant employees, and those are the copies that eventually reached the collector's market. That the catalog number is reused for Darlene Love's "Today I Met The Boy I'm Gonna Marry" would indicate Phil used a 'new' number to prevent copies from accidentally reaching the marketplace (he could tell the plant to destroy all copies of catalog number X, and re-use the number at a later date), and not to fulfill some court-ordered agreement; otherwise, royalties from "Today" would have legally been owed to Sill. Once Phil proved his point, the catalog number was re-used for "Today", technically making "Let's Dance the Screw" the first pressing of the former title.
Have added scans that appear to be the same printing as the main scans. The only real difference is the variation in label coloring. My scans are a much deeper orange color than those posted, and accurately reflect the color of my copies as opposed to a printer variation. Whether they would be considered upgrades is an open question, but the quality is superb, and I think would be of interest to Philles collectors.
I wonder how a record company could think they would get away with this type of release? I'm sure Uncle Phil came after them pretty hard, and I can't imagine the Vanguards not being really upset. Composers are incorrect, producer (Vanguards) is wrong. Hmm...?
Don't know what this is? Re-recording? Crystals NOT The Crystals. No composer/producer credits... different sounding than the Philles recordings with the same titles. Hmm...? Who are these Rebound people?
Fred, I was hoping one of our Scandinavian experts would have commented.
NCB: Nordisk Copyright Bureau (Skandinavien) covers several countries and the positioning of the NCB within a square or a rectangle is a key indicator of which is the country of release.
I think you should add it as a release from Denmark and once we see it we'll decide if it's in the right place. Comment by fredhoyt:
The label looks similar - no Extended Play, HL 9773 where the RE 5134 is, NCB in a rectangle in the same location. Does that make it Denmark? I can add the picture sleeve and record to Denmark and the mods can move it if they don't like it there....Comment by Felonious:
I have a picture sleeve and record from Netherlands (HL 9773) by the Crystals that has the exact same information that this record contains. My record contains the NCB (?) in a rectangle, but does not have the B.I.E.M. (?) designation. Should I add a separate listing for it, or should I add it to this listing? Thanks for your help.