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When Styrene went from solid black to clear dark red   


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  13th Jun 2012, 6:57 AM#1  QUOTE  REPORT  
washlively

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Does anybody have some concrete info on this? It looks like Monarch may have been the first to change to the dark red, starting in early '67. Not sure about Columbia.


  3rd Jul 2012, 3:01 PM#2  QUOTE  REPORT  
W.B.lbl

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With Columbia, it was some time in mid-1969 at their Pitman, NJ plant, circa 1970-71 in Terre Haute, IN. (By then, Santa Maria, CA was pressing all their 45's on vinyl, didn't revert to styrene until 1976.)

And it wasn't only Monarch that switched to clear dark red in 1967; so did Allied Record Co. in Los Angeles which also pressed 45's in styrene.

The other question becomes, when did the other major styrene pressing plants (Shelley, Bestway and Philips / PRC) likewise fall in line?


  4th Jul 2012, 8:21 AM#3  QUOTE  REPORT  
Bobzyeruncle

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It seems to me that this had little to do with the various pressing plants, but a change in the (raw?) materials obtained from their suppliers.
I'm not sure that carbon black was used in producing styrene, as it is in vinyl. If it was, however, it stands to reason that omitting it from the formula would be a bit cheaper.



  5th Jul 2012, 1:34 AM#4  QUOTE  REPORT  
BEATLEJOHN

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Another "strange" thing is some of Capitol's Scranton pressings from early 1969 to 1971 can glow with bright yellow patches under a black light......I know, I know....it sounds "old-school hippie"...but it's true...my copy of "Get Back" has an especially psychadelicaly-pleasing wash of yellow swatches.. .........though I haven't seen it in years...and no, it's not a flashback..;-)....John....b/t/w.....UK Pye/DJM and Penny Farthing singles from the 70s are are red to purple when held up to the light..

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  5th Jul 2012, 4:06 AM#5  QUOTE  REPORT  
Bobzyeruncle

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Try a few mid-Sixties US MGM pressings under black light, BEATLEJOHN.
They glow bright green! (Nice effect for those old Ultimate Spinach LPs. :grin: )



  5th Jul 2012, 7:29 AM#6  QUOTE  REPORT  
Oakley Boys

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I understand that some Madness singles give the same effect regarding red.


  8th Jul 2012, 8:35 AM#7  QUOTE  REPORT  
washlively

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Monarch is earlier than I thought: Josie #960 (Eddie Billups "No Love Have I") from July '66 is dark red.


  5th Jun 2014, 12:37 AM#8  QUOTE  REPORT  
W.B.lbl

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BEATLEJOHN wrote:
Another "strange" thing is some of Capitol's Scranton pressings from early 1969 to 1971 can glow with bright yellow patches under a black light......I know, I know....it sounds "old-school hippie"...but it's true...my copy of "Get Back" has an especially psychadelicaly-pleasing wash of yellow swatches.. .........though I haven't seen it in years...and no, it's not a flashback..;-)....John....b/t/w.....UK Pye/DJM and Penny Farthing singles from the 70s are are red to purple when held up to the light..
You sure that wasn't a contract pressing by RCA? Their pressings, especially when a(n old-school incandescent) flashlight is shone onto the surface, appear dark brownish yellowish on the vinyl surface.


  5th Jun 2014, 2:07 AM#9  QUOTE  REPORT  
Excello-2101

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I never noticed it before I got this reissue of "Wooly Bully". There had been word that there was a red wax issue of "Wooly Bully", and I just happened to hold it up to the light to see. I was excited for a minute or two, but then found out that this wasn't very unique after all.



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  5th Jun 2014, 3:21 AM#10  QUOTE  REPORT  
HarvestmanMan

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While we're on the topic of colored vinyl, my copy of this...



...has an odd metallic blue tint to the vinyl when held up to the light at a certain angle. The vinyl appears black, but when held up to the light, is apparently very dark blue (it is translucent in the deadwax).


Has anyone seen anything like this before? I know leftover colored vinyl pellets can be mixed in with black vinyl, but I've never seen a record like this.


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