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  20th Jul 2011, 1:38 PM#1  QUOTE  REPORT  
Getalife

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I understand that The Beatles “Hey Jude” at 7mins 20sec to be the longest 45, what was the shortest 45 to get into the top 40.

Edited by Getalife on 20th Jul 2011, 1:39 PM

  20th Jul 2011, 2:09 PM#2  QUOTE  REPORT  
KeithS

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I seem to remember Duane Eddy's "Ramrod" being mentioned you find it on CD at 1:25 and 1:42
"Lets have a party" by Elvis is 1:30....I had it on a 78 and it looked strange

Edited by KeithS on 20th Jul 2011, 7:01 PM

  20th Jul 2011, 3:28 PM#3  QUOTE  REPORT  
Paul Vinyl

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The single that didn't get into the top 40 was.

A- Side Napalm Death - You Suffer( 1 Second)
B- Side Electro Hippies - Mega Armageddon Death Pt. 3 (1 Second)

Which was entered into the Guinness Book Of Records as the world's shortest single.

Edited by Paul Vinyl on 20th Jul 2011, 3:29 PM

  20th Jul 2011, 3:32 PM#4  QUOTE  REPORT  
Getalife

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This may sound silly, but if a groove is a set size and side by side you can get a maximum of 7min 20sec out of a 7inch 45rpm, what did 1min 25sec look like, was it spaced out or just like a ordinary recording but only covering 20% of the surface, as you will guess, I’m not a record collector and so have no Duane Eddy or Elvis to compare.


  20th Jul 2011, 3:48 PM#5  QUOTE  REPORT  
KeithS

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The groove on the Elvis 78 mentioned above ran out after a couple of inches then a long space into the middle of the record


  20th Jul 2011, 6:43 PM#6  QUOTE  REPORT  
TheJudge

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There is at least one Top 40 7" 45 longer than Hey Jude.

K 17870.

WIP 6274 is longer still, but didn't chart.




  20th Jul 2011, 9:24 PM#7  QUOTE  REPORT  
My Friend Jack

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I have always believed that Elvis's One Broken Heart For Sale was the shortest hit at 1' 05" but I just checked and it's a whopping 1' 48".

Edited by My Friend Jack on 20th Jul 2011, 9:42 PM

  22nd Jul 2011, 12:44 PM#8  QUOTE  REPORT  
dn784533

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Adam Faith's What do you want is 1'35 - possibly the shortest Number One hit.

Cheating a bit, I know, but the B side Shut up by The Stranglers, is only 1'06. And another B side, a non-hit, Stavely Makepeace's Greasy haired woman, is just 34 seconds long. The groove on this track covers the same amount of "real estate" as a normal length track, but has a wide pitch which makes it look like a very long continuation of the run-in groove!


  25th Nov 2012, 12:19 PM#9  QUOTE  REPORT  
zabadak

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dn784533 wrote:
Adam Faith's What do you want is 1'35 - possibly the shortest Number One hit.

I thought Poor Me was shorter... :sideways:


  25th Nov 2012, 12:25 PM#10  QUOTE  REPORT  
Carouselambra

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Getalife wrote:
I understand that The Beatles “Hey Jude” at 7mins 20sec to be the longest 45, what was the shortest 45 to get into the top 40.


It's a promo, but it is longer than "Hey Jude".




  25th Nov 2012, 12:38 PM#11  QUOTE  REPORT  
Charlie Chalk

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Carouselambra wrote:
Getalife wrote:
I understand that The Beatles “Hey Jude” at 7mins 20sec to be the longest 45, what was the shortest 45 to get into the top 40.


It's a promo, but it is longer than "Hey Jude".
How about this then:



It may be cheating as it plays at 33RPM, but it is 9mins 33 sec!
The b side is 7mins 51sec.


  25th Nov 2012, 12:41 PM#12  QUOTE  REPORT  
Charlie Chalk

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Back to the original topic; the US release of Duane Eddy's 'Some Kind-A Earthquake' runs at a whopping 1min17secs!

It was extended to 2mins 1sec for its UK release.

Edited by Charlie Chalk on 25th Nov 2012, 12:44 PM

  25th Nov 2012, 12:42 PM#13  QUOTE  REPORT  
Getalife

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Carouselambra wrote:
Getalife wrote:
I understand that The Beatles “Hey Jude” at 7mins 20sec to be the longest 45, what was the shortest 45 to get into the top 40.


It's a promo, but it is longer than "Hey Jude".
I thought the longest could be this



or does it just seems to go on for ever. :eek:

Edited by Getalife on 25th Nov 2012, 12:43 PM

  25th Nov 2012, 1:07 PM#14  QUOTE  REPORT  
RadnaNotions

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Not a top 40 single and it's the B side but this is about 32 seconds, and it's a nice song. (I've just posted a YT link).

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  25th Nov 2012, 1:42 PM#15  QUOTE  REPORT  
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Getalife wrote:
This may sound silly, but if a groove is a set size and side by side you can get a maximum of 7min 20sec out of a 7inch 45rpm, what did 1min 25sec look like, was it spaced out or just like a ordinary recording but only covering 20% of the surface, as you will guess, I’m not a record collector and so have no Duane Eddy or Elvis to compare.

A groove is not a set size - you can squeeze more onto a side by recording it quieter and/or compressing the audio so there are no big variations (so the grooves can sit tighter together therefore more grooves per side therefore longer playing time). Hey Jude and other long singles are really EPs with one track. The standard size used now for example will comfortably fit 4+ minutes per side which wasn't needed in the 50s/60s so the recent reissue of Love Me Do uses an embarrassingly small part of the playing area (with the sound quality and particularly recording level suffering). There are 5" singles with the music squeezed into a tiny half inch band at 33rpm but they sound terrible!

Edited by vinyl_junkie on 25th Nov 2012, 1:43 PM

  25th Nov 2012, 4:52 PM#16  QUOTE  REPORT  
H82Type

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This one hit Top 40.


  25th Nov 2012, 8:17 PM#17  QUOTE  REPORT  
seanbss

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My Friend Jack,

The confusion over Elvis' One Broken Heart...' is that the film version was 1.48, whilst the single ran to 1.35 as it was a verse shorter.

As per Wikipedia and the liner notes for the Elvis Double Features series:

"One Broken Heart for Sale" and "They Remind Me Too Much of You" would be released ahead of time on January 29 as a single to promote both the album and the film. "Broken Heart" just missed the top ten, peaking at #11 on the Billboard Hot 100, with the b-side charting independently at #53. Truncated with a verse excised to a very short length of 1:35, "Broken Heart" was the first RCA single of Presley's career that did not make the top five'.

Hope this helps


  26th Nov 2012, 1:32 PM#18  QUOTE  REPORT  
doowopmike

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B side 1.36 not the shortest, but its short, and unusually for him its actually not a bad record (A side is shocking)



  26th Nov 2012, 5:41 PM#19  QUOTE  REPORT  
goodrats

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The shortest U.S. Top 40 song is "Some Kind-a Earthquake" by Duane Eddy at 1:17.
I believe the longest is Gun 'N Roses' "November Rain" at 9:00.


  27th Nov 2012, 2:08 AM#20  QUOTE  REPORT  
slotman17

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A couple of shorties on LONDON:

"You Tell Me" by Johnny Cash on HLS 8979 runs to 1m 15s - and that's the A Side.

"Sack Time" by David Seville & His Orchestra on HLG 9193 lasts all of 1m 4s, but it's still preferable to the A Side - "Alvin For President" by The Chipmunks.


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