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  13th Oct 2011, 6:18 PM#1  QUOTE  REPORT  
lugnut

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Just curious if anyone else has ran into this or has any idea what causes it. I've noticed that a lot of my RCA '80s 45s have a strange powdery substance on the labels, almost like the inks used printing are disintegrating or something (though the labels aren't fading or anything). I've noticed it especially on discs that were stored in picture sleeves, but not exclusively.

It's hard to describe and harder to show in pictures, but here's a Bruce Hornsby record that's exhibiting the issue:



The whitish/silverish parts that look like regular label wear actually aren't - they're the powdery junk. (And this one I only have in a regular company sleeve, not a picture sleeve.)

So what's going on?




  13th Oct 2011, 7:59 PM#2  QUOTE  REPORT  
Deltics

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BEATLEJOHN answered that question on this post: PB-12354
Apparently it's something called Oxydry.

Edited by Deltics on 13th Oct 2011, 11:52 PM

  13th Oct 2011, 11:49 PM#3  QUOTE  REPORT  
lugnut

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Deltics wrote:
BEATLEJOHN answered that question on this post: PB-12354
Apparently it's someting called Oxydry.

Ah-ha! Interesting.

I wonder if it was mainly only RCA who used this stuff. I've only ever noticed it on one or two non-RCA records, but I've got several RCA's like this (some just as bad as the Chipmunks record in that entry). Then again, I suppose it may just be that RCA's black labels of the era make it more visible than other labels.



  14th Oct 2011, 12:30 AM#4  QUOTE  REPORT  
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You'll notice it more on the darker colors, (Black, Navy, Browns), Oxydry is a fine white powder (think of corn starch) and it's actually edible, (no!... don't go licking it off your records, you won't get a buzz off of it!).........John


  6th Sep 2012, 5:28 PM#5  QUOTE  REPORT  
Kent T

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It is on many styrene US records to keep the labels preserved. It keeps the labels from developing wear from being shelved.


  10th Sep 2012, 3:36 AM#6  QUOTE  REPORT  
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This "powdery" substance was not unique to RCA labels. It could also be seen on Columbia pressings from the mid-1960's on to the point when their last vinyl / styrene plant closed in 1991; as well as from Allied Record Co. in Los Angeles. Here's an example of such a label from a Columbia pressing:




  13th Sep 2012, 6:04 AM#7  QUOTE  REPORT  
nuarborist

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I used to see this on styrene 45s from Arista late-70s black labels and A&M red/black from the early 80s. I agree the darker color labels show it most.


  17th Sep 2012, 9:34 PM#8  QUOTE  REPORT  
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In addition, this "Oxy-Dry" substance was affixed to the back (uncoated) side of 60 lb. C1S (coated one side) paper stock, and such treated label sheets were designated "heat seal" for pressing on styrene records. (Regular vinyl labels that were pressed onto the record were called "compression," and were generally of 70 lb. weight - either C2S (coated two sides) or C1S (printed on uncoated side) or uncoated or the infamous super-glossy "Kromecote."


  17th Sep 2012, 9:37 PM#9  QUOTE  REPORT  
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Is this the same stuff that all Eric singles seem to be covered in??


  18th Sep 2012, 7:40 AM#10  QUOTE  REPORT  
W.B.lbl

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KeithS wrote:
Is this the same stuff that all Eric singles seem to be covered in??
Sure would be. At least those pressed up to the closure of Columbia's last vinyl / styrene pressing plant (in Carrollton, GA) in 1991.

Edited by W.B.lbl on 18th Sep 2012, 8:01 AM

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  12th Mar 2013, 12:59 PM#12  QUOTE  REPORT  
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  12th Mar 2013, 2:13 PM#13  QUOTE  REPORT  
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I've also got quite a few Mercury reissues (the blue-label "oldies" series from the 80s) that have this stuff all over the label.


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Billy Two wrote:
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