All this debate got me thinking, so I got mine out... Run-off groove 'A' side has:- BUY 13 A - 2U (stamped) with;- 'A NUDDER PORKY PRIME CUT'. The 'B' side has:- BUY 13 B-1 (handwritten) with;- DB - MASTER ROOM. Mine has 'L' stamper code as used by EMI, 1st 'mother', obviously George 'Porky' Peckham was there then. Label is same as 'retaliator's'.
I've just bought a copy of this and it has;
A BILBO BOPPA! BUY 13 A-1 EG and DB-MASTER ROOM BUY 13 B-1 EG
but has made in England on the label and is a BUY 13 (Not BUY BUY)
Does this mean it could be a box set copy?
i've got 2 copies, both solid centre, buy buy 13's both sleeves straight cut
same thickness as the damned neat neat neat
BUY 13 A-1....EG.......A BILBO BOPPA !
BUY 13 B-1....EG.......DB - MASTER ROOM.
2nd copy A side matrix same B side matrix
BUY 13 B-1 X.......EG.......DB - MASTER ROOM.
i think the laminated sleeve could be as rare as the green text one. ? ?
45 revolutions states picture sleeve in thicker or thinner paper, are the thin paper
sleeves originals or from the stiff box set ? ?
I'm personally inclined to think the green-lettered sleeves - whenever they date from - are 'misprints'. In the same sense that copies of the 'Hot Rods' sleeve for Damned Damned Damned were 'misprints'...
VinylSid your label design and matrix put it as a 1977 issue the 78 ones have LYN and some numbers and they have the label design 'Made In England' and the rounded sleeve openings were used from 78 onwards AFAIK Stiff do very often play mix-n-match with sleeves and discs. They may have had a batch of 77 discs left and popped them into 78 sleeves.
Miner154 - I'm 95% sure I bought this when it first came out - but the opening cut you say disproves this. Plot thickens!
The only matrix's on my solid centre copy are:
A-side: A BILBO BOPPA!
B-side: DB MASTER ROOM
Wish I'd known about the green lettering sleeve version before my book on the early Stiff releases was published last month! BTW the book's on Ebay at the moment as a buy it now if anyone's interested.
I was under the impression that the curved thumbcut on the early Stiff pic sleeves only appeared on the reprints done for the boxed sets, Sid - your green variation on this is indeed very interesting (and totally new to me!). My 1977 copy of this (red print) has a straight thumbcut (parallel to the sleeve edge), as do all originals I've previously seen (labels identifiable - as yours are - by the 'BUY BUY' prefix and lack of 'Made in England' text under the band's name).
Bonaparte... them were the days! I could use hi-res scans of both this and your XTC thing for a reprint of '45 Revolutions'.. any chance, please? It'd be best to email them to me through my lowdownkids site.
The green lettering sleeve I posted may be the first pressing. Back then I hung out at Bonaparte Records in Bromley which was a mecca for punk and new wave. I came home with at least ten new punk singles a week - fresh off the presses!