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Artist:Black Box Recorder
Label:  Chrysalis
Country:UK
Catalogue:CHS 5091
Date:6 Jul 1998
Format:7"
Chart Position:89
Collection:  I Own It     I Want It 
Community:5 Own
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TrackArtistTitleComposerProducerRating
ABlack Box RecorderEngland Made MeHaines, MooreBlack Box Recorder, Phil Vinall9.7  Rate
BBlack Box RecorderLord Lucan Is MissingPotter, ZuberBlack Box Recorder9.3  Rate


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ColgatePing
10th Jun 2011
 You're Right MrsFish

Sarah Nixey
 

 
MrsFish
17th Nov 2010
 ...ahem!.....let me remind you this is a Black Box Recorder thread....that Sarah Nixey, phwoor a bit of alright eh.....but she'd never fancy me.....it's alright! I got over it...
 

 
Polegateman
15th Feb 2010
 Interesting article by bbc here subtitled "What happens to record shops after they die?".

Mentions 'Beano's' of Croydon which used to be the largest 2nd hand record store in England. And had their own printed sleeves for 45's.
 

 
vinyl_junkie
11th Feb 2010
 For chart positions outside the top 75 (and inside) after 1994 I use Zobbel's Chart Log (link) - you do have to get used to the little symbols and stuff though as to whether it is the budget album chart (so best ignored - some long singles / EPs were listed in that), download chart (when it was still seperate) etc... also the way it's laid out isn't always obvious. Oh and the date is the week ending date for its first week on chart so the release date is usually that minus 12 days - this is almost always the case for records from 1994-200? (whenever the downloads were included)... during that time biggest sales were almost always in the week of release. It has everything that entered the top 200 singles (or even top 250 for a year or so at some point). He still updates it as well.
 

 
Dr Doom
11th Feb 2010
 Aha! Good point.

We'll find a way of keeping EP chart data seperate. We'll just have to wait for Apollo Cat to let us know how he wants to do it (he's in an Aeroplane at the moment)
 

 
Rotatey Diskers
11th Feb 2010
 If, at some stage, we want to do anything with the chart information statistically, having two sets of data in one data field might cause problems (two records at the same chart position in the same week, for example).
 

 
My Friend Jack
11th Feb 2010
 Oops! I've started, but will now stop. Let me know...
 

 
Dr Doom
11th Feb 2010
 How so?
 

 
Rotatey Diskers
11th Feb 2010
 No don't!

The chart positions are for the singles chart. Using the same data field for the EP charts will mess up the database!
 

 
My Friend Jack
11th Feb 2010
 "35 Years of British Hit EPs" by George R White was published in 2001 by Music Mentor Books. ISBN 0 9519888 1 6. It lists every EP to make the UK singles chart between 1955 and 1989 (that where the 35 years comes from). However, the data used between 12 March 1960 and 16 December 1967 is taken from the EP charts published by Record Retailer and New Record Mirror / Record Mirror.

The book also lists which tracks appeared on each EP, but it doesn't list what order they appeared in. The chart positions for records before and after the EP charts are taken from the UK singles charts.

As well as listing the EPs in artist / date order (in the style of British Hit Singles etc), the book also includes every EP chart set out week-by-week in "Tony Jasper" style (one month at a time, with a separate column for each week of the month).

I will make a start on those EP chart positions...
 

 
Dr Doom
11th Feb 2010
 EP chart positions would be great thanks.

I think your idea about displaying the chart position on the artist page is a good one.

I'll add it to the list!

: )
 

 
My Friend Jack
11th Feb 2010
 Just a thought... I know that there are some changes planned for Cat45, so here's one you might like to consider. If the chart positions were shown on the Artist Discography page, it would be much easier to spot which ones needed to be added. At the moment, you have to go into each record to see if it's been done.

Another thought - looking towards the future... at the moment the site is very UK-centric, so the only chart positions shown are UK singles charts. I know you wanted to get the UK data loaded before turning to the rest of the world! However, have you thought about adding different countries chart positions? I have chart books from Canada, NZ, Australia, the US, South Africa, the Netherlands, Ireland and Germany, and I guess I'm not alone. I do recognise that it becomes more complicated when other countries had different labels and different B-sides, but it's something to think about.

And finally, re chart positions... how do you feel about having details from the UK EP charts added?
 

 
My Friend Jack
11th Feb 2010
 If you click on the Chart Books link at Polyhex, you will see details of the latest editions of the 3 Virgin books: Hit Singles, Hit Albums and the recent Top 40 book. A new edition of Hit Singles is due out in November 2010.
 

 
Polegateman
11th Feb 2010
 That looks wonderful, thank you. Polyhex has been bookmarked!
 

 
Dr Doom
11th Feb 2010
 We use Polyhex.
 

 
Polegateman
11th Feb 2010
 I'd add chart info if I could, but plainly my 2nd edition of 'The Guinness book of British Hit Singles' dated 1979 isn't going to be much use :) Is there an online source to find out, or could you recommend an up to date book, please?
 

 
Rotatey Diskers
11th Feb 2010
 You may be the only one of us with access to chart positions outside the top 75, vinyl_junkie! Care to add some more?
 

 
vinyl_junkie
10th Feb 2010
 The trouble with that at the minute is most records that did chart don't have all the info filled in as this random example proves (I've just added the full release and chart info in case anyone wonders what was going on!). Not everyone who adds a record knows or has time to find out exact details that aren't on the record in front of them...
 

 
Polegateman
10th Feb 2010
 One thing this site reveals is that there have been tens of thousands of 45's issued over the last 50+ years, and one gets the impression that only a small fraction of these have been hits. It must be depressing for the number of acts that don't make it. Is it possible for the database to be interrogated so as to get the figures for 'number of disks with a chart position' as a percentage of the total number of disks, please?

(this disk chosen at random, btw, to add the comment to)
 


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